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bosscar wrote:If ST is common to almost every car. Could it be as simple as "spare tire"? I'm just thinking what may be common to all cars.
Still can't figure out what DF mens.
"ST" is not on Buck Tags from San Jose-built Mustangs and Capris.

"ST" is not on some Buck Tags from '79-model-year Dearborn-built Mustangs and Capris.

Surely the cars that didn't have "ST" on their Buck Tag still had a spare tire. :D
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bosscar wrote:The first couple of things that I thought of were, DF - "DUAL FRAMES", as in "front & rear" license plate brackets, ST - "STANDARD TINT", as in regular tinted glass, or ST - "spare tire". Common codes to everyones buck tags and these would be common options also on everyones cars. Does that theory hold up to your cross referencing all the buck tags?

Just a thought.
The front license plate bracket was either standard (in states that had a front plate) or optional through the '84 model year (gold-colored on the Black Magic and Crimson Cat). It was no-cost either way. After '84 I could find no reference to the front bracket, either as standard or as optional equipment.

The rear license plate frame was standard equipment on the Black Magic and Crimson Cat (gold-colored on both). I could find nowhere that it was optional on any other model.
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Could ST be for "Space Saver Tire" ? :roll:
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Then the tags that didn't have "ST" had a full-size spare?
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FoxChassis wrote:Then the tags that didn't have "ST" had a full-size spare?
Good point, since it doesn't look like there is enough room for a full size spare, but DF and ST is a very common build code for them to be on most buck tags. So logically, we are overlooking a couple of very common builds, what ever they might be. Its kind of fun just trying to noodle it thru and figure out what they are.
Are these codes used on other Ford models too? If so, then maybe ST could be space saver tire, and on other Ford cars such as a Crown Vic maybe they would have a code other than ST for a full size tire?
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FoxChassis wrote:'DF' is on tags from bodies with door frames (solid roof and sunroof) and on tags from bodies without door frames (T-roof and convertible).

'DF' is on tags from models that had black door frames and on tags from models that had body-color door frames.

'DF' is on tags from cars/models with black sail panels and on tags from cars/models body-color sail panels.
Is it possible that both codes go together? DF ST - Door Frame - Standard
Do all the T-roofs and Convertibles just only have DF without the ST?
Do all the Coupes and HB's have it listed as DF ST?
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FoxChassis wrote:Then the tags that didn't have "ST" had a full-size spare?
Special Service Package Mustangs were shipped with full size spares and ST is on the buck tags.
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Could it be for rear speakers?

Would the car need to be specially prepped for rear speaker install (wiring harness)?

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negusm wrote:Could it be for rear speakers?

Would the car need to be specially prepped for rear speaker install (wiring harness)?

-Mike
It is a common option. Maybe.
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What about tinted glass, or shaded tinted windshield (ST), as opposed to basic clear glass?
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bosscar wrote:
negusm wrote:Could it be for rear speakers?

Would the car need to be specially prepped for rear speaker install (wiring harness)?

-Mike
It is a common option. Maybe.
It was less common on the earlier cars and not even allowed on the 85-86 cars except for the SVO comp preps.

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Like "Speakers Trunk". Lol.

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Does anyone have access to a car without the DF and/or ST on the buck tag? Being able to go over one with a 'fine-toothed comb' to visually compare what it has and doesn't have to a similarly equipped car that has the DF/ST is probably the only way this will get figured out. A side-by-side comparison in a parking lot or driveway would be awesome.
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KHummel66 wrote:Does anyone have access to a car without the DF and/or ST on the buck tag? Being able to go over one with a 'fine-toothed comb' to visually compare what it has and doesn't have to a similarly equipped car that has the DF/ST is probably the only way this will get figured out. A side-by-side comparison in a parking lot or driveway would be awesome.
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bosscar wrote: Don't forget NLR - No Lovers Rear
I don't think Ford was worried about your personal life back then. :D

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