1986 Mercury Capri with 2200 Miles back on Ebay

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I don't think someone came and switched all these bezels...unless you did Sandy? Was it you? LOL (Hope you feel better soon)


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You know you live on the coolest street in America when you see a picture of a Capri and in the background is another Capri.

I think the confusion on the whole thing is that there are so many Mustangs and so few Capris out there that it is assumed the Capri followed the same pattern. It usually did but there are a bunch of little things where the Capri was treated to different options than the Mustang.

The TRX option is one. We have corrected so many people that the TRX tire was NOT discontinued in 1984 with the Mustang. The Capri CONTINUED to offer TRX through 1985. Very few cars received it but we have documented examples (and the brochures clearly state this).

-Mike
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8:30 AM
Okay, I checked everything I have (Yes, I am exhausted) and listen up....
I WAS WRONG ! Okay? I was wrong. there, I said it! I was wrong.
I herewith will ban myself from this board for a minimum of 24 hours, not to excede 36 hours.

Now then, here is what happened. Wayne Lincoln-Mercury, in Wayne New Jersey (one of those huge mega billion doller dealerships with 30 salespeople, 30 service bays and like 400 new cars in stock, was THE ascMcLaren appointed dealer in New Jersey. (Otherwise I never would go to such type of dealership). cAN YOU IMAGINE ARRIVING AND FEASTING ONE'S EYS on over 25 ascMcLarens?

About 20 were COUPES, all lined up, and at least the same number of 'Verts.
So, wanting the coupe, I was all over them. I had also looked at regular RS Capris.
I noticed that the non ASC cars had all the interior bezels in chrome, but all of the McLaren coupes were black plastic. I never commented on that to wife or my saleslady, but I just assumed FoMoCo chose the black.
I was also in a few 1986 'Verts that day. The Verts I noticed wore chrome bezels, as did the regular Capris, both GS and RS.
So, I just assumed that black was correct for a ASC Coupe.

A young guy who lived in the next town over, from me, had a Euro Coupe. and I went to see it. (He stopped me in a parking lot, and told me adbout it. Invited me over, so i went. White Euro - 5-Speed manual Manual pop-up sun roof.
Black Bezel on drivers side & chrome on passenger's side. !!!
I mentioned it. He said he know, and kinda just laughed it off.

So, okay. I guess I was wrong. No secne arguring any more over this.
I will take my punishment and take my 24 hour leave.

Sandy
Sandy passed away in 2012. He will be forever missed.

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No. OUT OF SCHOOL SUSPENSION IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH! Your punishment is IN SCHOOL SUSPENSION!

Post an extra interesting topic or two (asc, Imperials or whatever) for everyone to enjoy your wisdom!

-Mike
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negusm wrote:

The TRX option is one. We have corrected so many people that the TRX tire was NOT discontinued in 1984 with the Mustang. The Capri CONTINUED to offer TRX through 1985. Very few cars received it but we have documented examples (and the brochures clearly state this).

-Mike
the trx were put on 5.0 GS models(non-rs style) only.
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aaah what was this topic about :?
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But, I was bothered back then (1986) at the time we were at the dealer.
At first, I didn't realize the bezels. Then, sitting in a Euro, I noted the two different styles, so I went to look at a RS and they were BLACK, then I looked at another RS & it had both sides chrome? The only ones that were all the same, were the full packaged McLarens, with 'verts being chrome and hardtops being black.

I have never been back to that dealership. Too far to go for anything.
But back then (in the 1980s) they ran with 200+ new car inventor

Remember, I came to ascMcLarens by way of Imperials ! :shrug

Shhhhh, don't tell nobody.....Still involved in (with) Imperials.


{ all the guys on here, under age 30 are scratching their heads going WTF is an Imperial??????????}
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1990 Final Car prior to the 12 Silver Anny Editions
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1985 Motorsport Capri wrote:
negusm wrote:

The TRX option is one. We have corrected so many people that the TRX tire was NOT discontinued in 1984 with the Mustang. The Capri CONTINUED to offer TRX through 1985. Very few cars received it but we have documented examples (and the brochures clearly state this).

-Mike
the trx were put on 5.0 GS models(non-rs style) only.
Yes on the GS only, but no on the 5.0 only. The lit does not say the "TR Performance Package" was not available with the 2.3 or 3.8. It all only says it was available with the "GS only". No mention of engine.
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2000mileRS wrote: This car is in immaculate condtion and can say there in not a car in this condtion left in the counrty. In regards to the door, it was not painted as you say. What was on the door handle was fine residue compound spray from when the car was buffed.
So I guess when YOU wrote this you were mistaken?
2000mileRS wrote:Hello All,
I see the discussion going on about the 2000 mile capri on ebay. Per my feedback on ebay you can all see I was upset. Anyone who know's anything about the history of this car let me know. I can say the there was somekind of repair to the drivers door and the drivers side was repainted. I put the car on jacks. The underside cleaned up nice. Every component of the underside looks new / original. (there was some overspray on the drivers side exhaust pipes). However, I am not happy that the car was described as all original paint and no body work. I have contacted ebay for help. The owner has not returned any of my calls and claims he knows nothing about bodywork / Paint. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. I will be taking off the door panel to see what lies underneath the repaint. Ill let you all know
2000mileRS wrote:Yes, This is that car. I brought the car to a good body guy. He put the car up. The underside is pristine factory condition. he checked the cars underside for signs of nuts removed etc etc. Car looks like a 2000 mile car. The drives door was painted. He then did a complete inspection of the inside of the door frame and skin and found no sign of anykind of damage. He then checked to build stamps of the door and are all match the rest of the body code stamps. In his opinion the car door may have been a repaint after if it failed quailty standards or the car door may have been keyed or scratched at the in transit or at the dealership.
Either the car has been painted or it hasn't, you've said both.
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I wonder why he ended the listing on the '86 Capri with 2,200 miles? I guess someone must have looked at the FEEDBACK he left on Ebay for the screen name STANFAIRLANE when he purchased the car. Oh! But he changed his screen name from autonational to merceliminator and put the car for sale under the new screen name. If you also look at STANFAIRLANE on Ebay ,you will see a 140 mph speedometer that was sold after the feedback on the '86 Capri. This Speedometer fits that car!. Stanfairlane is a good train friend of the original owner of the 1986 Capri. They both have model railroad layouts. STANFAIRLANE sells mostly trains not cars or car parts. He sold the Capri for him because he did not how to work the Ebay system. Does it seem strange that the car and the speedometer had both been sold with in just weeks of each other? I inspected that car and posted the findings on all the web site to help other Mustang and Capri enthusiasts.I passed on the car because it did not look right! If the owner did not have the pole barn with a body shop and engines , transmission all over the place. I would have maybe purchased the car. The seller had the knowledge to do anything to a car, He even told that after it was sold he installed a brand new fuel pump in the Capri. With 2,000 miles?The setting of the sellers property
gave me a lot of bad signals! I can only speak the true The Capri overall is a sharp car. I know someone will enjoy!



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Thanks for your in depth opinion on the car. Why do you feel the need to prove your pointless judgements?
You saw the car in person. You offered the guy 8500 and tried your hardest to strong arm the original owner into thinking the car was something other than a original 2000 mile capri RS that you disnt have the steam to buy. You then called me to do the same, and would offer anything to assist me in getting the car back to the orig owner.
You called me up before the car was even delivered to my garage saying how bad the paint was and how you thought the entire car was damaged. Look at the date of my original post about the car after you called me. It was posted the same day i received the car at night. Why don't you post my other posts after I brought the car to a mechanic and before it was listed on ebay. I've had 5 folks look at the car. All making offers on the spot, The most interesting was a MCA certified judge look at the car on Friday and made an offer. According to him the car is a 100point car and would do well if not win nationally. He did not have anything to say about the door.
The car is off of ebay because it is sold. Luckly outside of ebay so you cant call them to with your bull tulips.
I've lost a few cars in my lifetime that I wanted to buy. I say oh well live and learn. You should live and learn next time a once in a lifetime cars comes around.
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We have reviewed all the posts on the '86 Capri. In one statement you said it was painted the other you said it was not. Which is it? I looked at the car it was a sharp car, But had to much damage on the body and overspray of red paint on the door handle and the paint was redone on the door. I have the twin to that car, with perfect paint! PLUS! The guy had a body shop on his property ???????????? I made the offer and he passed. No big deal, The setting of his garage and shop made me think about the car and the truth . I'm gald you sold it and I hope it went to a person who will take good care of it :)
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Im sorry but I can't let someone state incorrect facts.
1. Mustang Club of America Judge said the car is a 100pt car. No mention of overspray and or paintwork. Go to walmart and get yourself a pair of glasses.
2. Now your saying there was the damage to the car?. I ding on the roof and another by the rear passenger trunk lid. Where was the damage Chip Foose junior?
3. Does the fact that the original owner has a barn in his yard and a air compressor in his gargage constitute a body shop. The original owner of the car also owns a 66 Comet AX with a 427 cammer that brought 370,000 at this years Mechum Auction. Does the fact he has a spare engine block or two in his garage de'value his comet?
4. Lets see some pictures of your capri. Interior, Door Jambs inner fenders, engine area, wheel wells Put up some photos of your car so we all can ask questions about factory paint and how these cars were built, I believe between the capri and mustang the dearborn plant put alittle over 100,000 vehicles in 85/86?
Finally, why do you state how bad the car was and how much damage the car had & then go to say how nice the car is.
Sorry you didnt buy the car 6 months ago. Next time you find a car as rare and perfect as this was, pay up.
Can't wait for those pictures!
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2000mileRS wrote:I believe between the capri and mustang the dearborn plant put alittle over 100,000 vehicles in 85/86?
Almost 177,000 total (Capri and Mustang both) in '85, and over 247,000 total (Capri and Mustang both) in '86.
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Well, it looks like this car is going the rounds again. You may have seen my posts on FEP and the mods were all over me on there for it. Sorry guys, you were and still are wrong about the mileage.

2000mileRS, I hate to tell you this but you were bamboozled. Surprising still is that you are trying to dump it onto another unsuspecting buyer. After everyone else jumped down my throat on other forums (including FEP) with regards to its authenticity I decided to do a little detective work.

After contacting my leads out in Detroit and pulling both a Canadian and U.S. VIN report, I discovered the original owner had never registered the vehicle prior to the sale on eBay. EVER. Not in the U.S., Canada or anywhere else. Sounds suspicious? I thought so. How on earth did the owner put 1967 miles on the car without ever registering it for nearly 25 years? The answer is simple really. The person you bought is from is a well known flipper. He had and still has a MI car dealership license. This allowed him to drive any car he wanted to without ever registering it. Slap a temporary dealer tag on it and drive away forever. This is a common occurance with dealers. That's why I never buy used cars from them.

My guess is the guy bought it as an investment and after he realized it wasn't going anywhere after 5 years he began to drive it. And drive it he did. You probably ran into issues transferring the title. If not he probably registered it immediately before you bought it. Or used his connections as a dealer to do it under the radar. Having 2000 miles on an unregistered vehicle raises the flags over at the DMV. Even if you drive it offroad, you have to register it for insurance coverage.

After looking at how the odometer was traveling backwards, all one has to do is connect the dots and voilla...instant discrepancy. Here is a shot of the original ODO photo from Auction 1:

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Yes, the ODO is going the wrong way. Surprise! My suggestion is to pull the console and inspect the odometer for tampering. But maybe you don't want to do that because you might be stuck with it. Pass the buck I say!

Good luck on the sale. I sure hope the next owner is going to be getting what they pay for...a 35K mile overpriced scratched and dented, repainted Capri with an ODO discrepancy.
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